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i would like to ask mr. brennan, "have you considered putting forth with congress the idea of perhaps legislating in this area, having a regularized system that involves other branches of government? we don't want to just trust one branch with this awesome power." >> i would love for john brennan to answer the following question. the legal justification for us to drop bombs in places that, like yemen and places like pakistan and north africa, places at which we are not declared to be at war, is the following. i would also like to know what he thinks the line is between assassinating, target killings extra, outside of the united states and within the united states? is there actually a line that can be drawn? what if there was a foreign person within the united states? does the authority that is invested in the obama administration is claiming, does that allow them to kill people within the united states who are foreign? does it allow them to kill people within the united states who are u.s. citizens? there's
i would like to ask mr. brennan, "have you considered putting forth with congress the idea of perhaps legislating in this area, having a regularized system that involves other branches of government? we don't want to just trust one branch with this awesome power." >> i would love for john brennan to answer the following question. the legal justification for us to drop bombs in places that, like yemen and places like pakistan and north africa, places at which we are not declared...
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good afternoon, mr. brennan. i can't help but observing that senator coats talked about being governor of new jersey. i think being governor of new jersey is a piece of cake compared to being director of the cia. i hope governor christi will take no offense to that. >> i have no plans to run against governor christie. >> thank you for your service. i have some comments i would like to share with you and then i will direct some questions your way. you have said that president obama believes that done carefully, deliberately, and responsibly we can be more transparent and still ensure our nation's security. i absolutely agree. the american people have the right to know what their government does on their behalf consistent with our national security, the presunks mption o transparency should be the rule. when we on the committee push hard for access to the legal analysis justifying the authority of the executive branch to lethally target americans using drones, for instance, it erodes the government's credibility to
good afternoon, mr. brennan. i can't help but observing that senator coats talked about being governor of new jersey. i think being governor of new jersey is a piece of cake compared to being director of the cia. i hope governor christi will take no offense to that. >> i have no plans to run against governor christie. >> thank you for your service. i have some comments i would like to share with you and then i will direct some questions your way. you have said that president obama...
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brennan. mr. vice chairman, please proceed. >> thank you very much. mr. brennan, i join the chair in congratulating you on your nomination. welcoming you to the committee today. and i don't have to remind you because you are a career individual of the importance of your nomination to head the central intelligence agency. i also want to welcome your family and thank them for their support of you during your years of commitment to our government. also want to say as the chairman did that how much we appreciate mike morel and i'm very pleased to see that in your prepared statement you mention mike and his contribution to the central intelligence agency and that you intend to keep mike in place. he is a very valued public servant and a guy who's stepped in to very difficult situation now twice and has led with great leadership and provided the agency with what was needed. it will be your responsibility if confirmed to lead the cia as our nation continues to face significant national security challenges. while we have heard a lot in recent months about al qaed
brennan. mr. vice chairman, please proceed. >> thank you very much. mr. brennan, i join the chair in congratulating you on your nomination. welcoming you to the committee today. and i don't have to remind you because you are a career individual of the importance of your nomination to head the central intelligence agency. i also want to welcome your family and thank them for their support of you during your years of commitment to our government. also want to say as the chairman did that...
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mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is the answer or do you think? >> i do not understand, because that will not be a request coming to me. >> i understand, so my direction to you, at what i ask you, is that you review that. we will get you the and notation, if necessary. secretary panetta told us it was detainee information that was key to them finding the courier and bin laden. were you briefed by any of the analysts who tracked down bin laden? >> before the operation? >> yes. >> yes, absolutely. >> is that the information given to you, that it came from interrogation of deta
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welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally undone by the american people. most people do not think about that -- totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages. i will pour out my frustration on dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations trying to get information. why was it they felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why was it they were willing to talk to pat roberts, me, saxby chambliss, dianne feinstein, but not anybody else? until we literally bludgeoned them, diane and i, to include everybody. it is amazing. i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff.
welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally undone by the american people. most people do not think about that -- totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from...
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welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages. i will pour out my frustration on dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations trying to get information. why was it they felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why was it they were willing to talk to pat roberts, me, saxby chambliss, dianne feinstein, but not anybody else? until we literally bludgeoned them, diane and i, to include everybody. it is amazing. i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the presiden
welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages....
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mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is the answer or to you think? >> i do not understand, because that will not be a request coming to me. >> i understand, so my direction to you, at what i ask you, is that you review that. we will get you the and -- we will get youppi if necessary., efficient ca alice told us it was detainee information that was key to them finding the courier and bin laden. were you briefed by any of the analysts who track down bin laden? >> before the operation? but yes. >> yes, absolutely. >> is that the information given to you, that it came from interrog
mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is...
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look, i want to give mr. brennan the benefit of all the doubt. but the fact is it's one of those i was for it before i was against it moments. and he still got some clearing up to do. we know that he had access and information about the e.i.t. program and -- >> enhanced interrogation. >> and you know, he was involved in not the carrying out of the program, but he was the director of a different area that did not directly oversee this, but he sat in on meetings on a regular basis about the program. so we've got some follow-up yet to be done. we're going to have another hearing on tuesday and we'll probe a little bit more. >> where does the brennan nomination stand? >> well, there probably as many democrats that are not happy with him right now as there are republicans. i don't know. i know the president needs a c.i.a. director. i know that john brennan is a very knowledgeable person and we've got to just sift through what his answers were today and then -- >> did you see anything that rose to the level that would kill his nomination? >> well, i do
look, i want to give mr. brennan the benefit of all the doubt. but the fact is it's one of those i was for it before i was against it moments. and he still got some clearing up to do. we know that he had access and information about the e.i.t. program and -- >> enhanced interrogation. >> and you know, he was involved in not the carrying out of the program, but he was the director of a different area that did not directly oversee this, but he sat in on meetings on a regular basis...
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so i'm anxious to hear what mr. brennan does for justification tomorrow. sam? >> let me add one point to that which is the other thing the administration has done is well, we've been talking about this process, attorney general eric holder has been talking about this process. john brennan has been talking about this process publicly. we have outlined it. and i think there is a role for congress to play. and i would add even for the american public to play to a certain extent in judging what kind of legal justifications the administration is using. i understand the administration doesn't want to set a bad precedent here, but these are weighty matters. >> colonel, what kind of intel are we getting on the ground? i mean we have to be sure that we're not killing innocent people here. >> well, i'm going to say having spent a lot of time in combat, i can tell you any time that we have any combat operation, you're going to have innocent people killed. there is always going to be collateral damage. and indeed in the second world war, we went out of our way to kill civi
so i'm anxious to hear what mr. brennan does for justification tomorrow. sam? >> let me add one point to that which is the other thing the administration has done is well, we've been talking about this process, attorney general eric holder has been talking about this process. john brennan has been talking about this process publicly. we have outlined it. and i think there is a role for congress to play. and i would add even for the american public to play to a certain extent in judging...
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there is a lot of questions for mr. brennan. >> after leaving the cia in 2007 he defended the enhanced method saying they quote max save the lives quote. >> i expressed my personal objections and my views about certain such as water boarding and nudity professing my personal objections but i did not try to stop it becse it was something being done in a different part of the agency under authority of the others. >> also high-profile leaks that were strategically done to make obama look top. >> he says he is not the subject of a probe, but a witness. lou: thank you to our chief congressional correspondent mike emmanuel. now the stunning disjointed efforts of communicating within the administration and a very serious lack of understanding how to react to the attacks on benghazi our next guest says the legally correct drone program carried out by the administration bears further examination. judith miller, a former u.s. ambassador, said john bolton , let's go to benghazi first rebels say i have heard very few days of testim
there is a lot of questions for mr. brennan. >> after leaving the cia in 2007 he defended the enhanced method saying they quote max save the lives quote. >> i expressed my personal objections and my views about certain such as water boarding and nudity professing my personal objections but i did not try to stop it becse it was something being done in a different part of the agency under authority of the others. >> also high-profile leaks that were strategically done to make...
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please continue, mr. brennan. >> thank you, chairman. i'm honored to appear before you today as the president's nominee to lead the central intelligence agent. i'm grateful to president obama for sending my name forward. thank you for your service to our nation and strong support for those who defend it. this includes the extraordinary men and women of the cia, and inintelligence community so many of whom like me call virginia home and call you our senator. i would the not be here today without the love and support of my wife kathy, my life partner and intelligence professionals has made numerous sacrifices over the yea years. >> would you pause mr. brennan. if you would remove that individual, please, quickly as you can, thank you. [audience member talking] >> mr. brennan, please procedure. >> my wife kathy like the spouses of other service intelligence officials has made numerous sacrifices baring the brunt of family responsibility because of my profession and tribute to my three children who like the children of many cia officers and
please continue, mr. brennan. >> thank you, chairman. i'm honored to appear before you today as the president's nominee to lead the central intelligence agent. i'm grateful to president obama for sending my name forward. thank you for your service to our nation and strong support for those who defend it. this includes the extraordinary men and women of the cia, and inintelligence community so many of whom like me call virginia home and call you our senator. i would the not be here today...
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., mr. john brennan. he said, quote, hezbollah started out as purely a terrorist organization back in the early 1980's and has evolved significantly over time . and now it has members of parliament, in the cabinet, lawyers, doctors, others who are part of the hezbollah organization and so quite frankly i'm pleased to see that a lot of hezbollah individuals are in fact renouncing that type of terrorism and violence and are trying to participate in the political process in lebanon in a very legitimate fashion. they have not sworn off violence in lebanon. they have not sworn off violence in egypt, in syria, as we well know, in libya, albania, tuesday nearbyia -- tunesia, even in african nations further south. i said before, expressed my concern that this administration by helping them, encouraging them to overthrow this nation's ally, president mubarak, express concerns before it was done about giving military assistance to people that we knew, including al qaeda, to joe throw a man who had blood on his hand
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. >> sam, what is your take on what the hearings are going to be like tomorrow for mr. brennan. this should be questions right out of the chute, shouldn't it? >> yes. this is a major component of the president's war on terror. it's a major component of his foreign policy. and listen, there is a difference between operational oversight, which is what congressman rogers was stressing in the interview with andrea mitchell, and legal oversight. and up until this point we really haven't seen any legal justification that the administration has presented for why it can target american civilians abroad if it has determined an imminent threat to the homeland. >> well, it was written today in the "new yorker" that the justification that they're using is a comparison to military troops going into cambodia in vietnam. that's how the nixon aw incredie changes. ri and i think there is a role for congress to play. and i would add even for the american public to play to a certain extent in judging what kind of legal justifications the administration is using. i understand the administration doe
. >> sam, what is your take on what the hearings are going to be like tomorrow for mr. brennan. this should be questions right out of the chute, shouldn't it? >> yes. this is a major component of the president's war on terror. it's a major component of his foreign policy. and listen, there is a difference between operational oversight, which is what congressman rogers was stressing in the interview with andrea mitchell, and legal oversight. and up until this point we really haven't...
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well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like the bush administration all over. democrats and republicans voiced their concerns, but it was independent senator from maine angus king who questioned the executive power of the president. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and the executioner all in one is very contrary to the traditions and the laws of this country. >> unilateral execution power of the president is causing concern among progressives in america. no doubt about it. democratic senator ron wyden asked brennan, how can the united states target american
well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like...
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brennan and how far down does it go? to a general? to a colonel? and there is no due process here whatsoever. and i'm curious. robert greenwald, your thoughts. why wasn't this memo released to the public by the obama administration? >> the obama administration is doing everything in its power to keep every single aspect of this disastrous and horrific policy of assassinating people in other countries. they're doing everything they can to keep it hidden. >> assassinating? you're saying -- you're saying assassinations are taking place? is that what you call it? >> yes, that's what i'm calling it. with people around the world who have not been tried by a jury, there has been no evidence against them, and we are guessing, remember this, we are guessing this and accusing them of things that we have absolutely no firm evidence about. i was in pakistan. i spent a lot of time talking to people, ed. we've talked about this. it's heartbreaking on a moral level, and it's absolutely disastrous on a security level. >> i'm surprised that there are veteran senato
brennan and how far down does it go? to a general? to a colonel? and there is no due process here whatsoever. and i'm curious. robert greenwald, your thoughts. why wasn't this memo released to the public by the obama administration? >> the obama administration is doing everything in its power to keep every single aspect of this disastrous and horrific policy of assassinating people in other countries. they're doing everything they can to keep it hidden. >> assassinating? you're...
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mr. price: thank you, madam chair. madam chair, this is pretty simple stuff. it's what families do across this country, it is what businesses do across this country and that is to make sure they don't spend more than they take in. all this bill does is say to the president, when you bring your budget to the congress, mr. president, let us know when it balances and hopefully it's not never, as he's had the last four years. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. all time for general debate has expired. pursuant to the rule, the bill shall be considered as read for amendment under the five-minute rule and the bill shall be considered read. no amendment to the bill is in order except those printed in house report 112- -- 113-8. each such amendment may be offered only in the order printed in the bill, may be offered only by a member designated in the report, shall be debatable equally divided by a proponent and an opponent and shall not be subject for demand for division of
mr. price: thank you, madam chair. madam chair, this is pretty simple stuff. it's what families do across this country, it is what businesses do across this country and that is to make sure they don't spend more than they take in. all this bill does is say to the president, when you bring your budget to the congress, mr. president, let us know when it balances and hopefully it's not never, as he's had the last four years. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. all time for...
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if mr. brennan was involved, i don't have evidence of that. no one does other than the people high in the investigation. congress has the right to know and we have to wonder who is minding the store here when you've the got this kind of information being leaked to the press. when it's high level security as this, and it impacts directly our national security. i've got to tell you it's a huge story with anything implications and somebody needs to come clean and come clean quick here. >> do you think it rises to the level of an impeachable offense if somehow the president himself authorized this leak? >> well, i mean, to reach a high crime and misdemeanor, moral turp tued, that's a high standard and i'm not going to venture whether this would be an impeachable offense or not. we don't have the evidence showing that. but i'll tell you what it does show at a minimum and this is significant, if the president of the united states is running our national security through his offices, which is what happens in these kind of situations and there's a lea
if mr. brennan was involved, i don't have evidence of that. no one does other than the people high in the investigation. congress has the right to know and we have to wonder who is minding the store here when you've the got this kind of information being leaked to the press. when it's high level security as this, and it impacts directly our national security. i've got to tell you it's a huge story with anything implications and somebody needs to come clean and come clean quick here. >> do...
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>> there's talk about -- >> collateral damage. >> wasn't the best part of mr. brennan's testimony. there has been significant collateral damage. the numbers are obviously whether it's hundreds or thousands. the real question is you have to ask yourself on a cost benefit way, yes. at times innocents will be hurt and ask yourself rumsfeld's question. as you do these things, is whatever you're accomplishing against terrorists to some extent offset by the fact you are alienate iing populations a governments with whom you have to work? that's the question you have to constantly ask this cost benefit test. >> am i naive? i have no problem, and i trust my government. once again, maybe that makes me naive, if we got to the point and as i listen to mr. bren than where we were going to do a drone strike against an american citizen it would be the most desperate of times, and i don't want to go through a fisa court and i have no problem with them doing it. >> i understand your feeling on that. the issue here is, you know, gene robinson in his column today, i think, raises a good point. he sai
>> there's talk about -- >> collateral damage. >> wasn't the best part of mr. brennan's testimony. there has been significant collateral damage. the numbers are obviously whether it's hundreds or thousands. the real question is you have to ask yourself on a cost benefit way, yes. at times innocents will be hurt and ask yourself rumsfeld's question. as you do these things, is whatever you're accomplishing against terrorists to some extent offset by the fact you are alienate...